Discussion:
SQL Anywhere 11.0.1 License Keys
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Shao Chan
2009-03-04 13:43:20 UTC
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Hi all,

The SQL Anywhere 11.0.1 readme states:

"With the introduction of new editions in SQL Anywhere 11.0.1, some
registration
keys have changed between the 11.0.0 and 11.0.1 releases. Do not use 11.0.0
registration keys to install 11.0.1 software. For example, this may lead to
a
scenario where the Administration Tools and samples are not installed
properly. "

Our license key type is:
11 SQL Anywhere Base Entitlement Only for 11.0 Windows - 32/64bit

Do we need to get a new one generated?

Also, is there any advantage in a fresh install over an upgrade (I don't
mean databases). Should we ideally uninstall and reinstall.

Cheers,

Shao
Chris Keating [Sybase iAnywhere]
2009-03-04 14:24:16 UTC
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The FAQ should help answer this question. It can be found at:
http://www.sybase.com/products/databasemanagement/sqlanywhere/neweditions.

If you apply the Maintenance Release (MR) (it is applied to a SA11.0.0
install), you will get the SQL Anywhere Workgroup edition plus any
previous add-ons that are installed. See the FAQ "I currently have SQL
Anywhere 11.0.0. Which edition do I get if I apply the 11.0.1
maintenance release?" for more info.

There is no need to do a fresh install. The MR (or what you are
referring to as the upgrade) will need to 11.0.0 software installed to
apply. This of course assumes that there has been no 'unexpected'
changes to the install i.e., no files renamed/deleted, directory
structures are intact - those would likely need to have a fresh install
to get back into a clean state.

- chris
Post by Shao Chan
Hi all,
"With the introduction of new editions in SQL Anywhere 11.0.1, some
registration
keys have changed between the 11.0.0 and 11.0.1 releases. Do not use 11.0.0
registration keys to install 11.0.1 software. For example, this may lead to
a
scenario where the Administration Tools and samples are not installed
properly. "
11 SQL Anywhere Base Entitlement Only for 11.0 Windows - 32/64bit
Do we need to get a new one generated?
Also, is there any advantage in a fresh install over an upgrade (I don't
mean databases). Should we ideally uninstall and reinstall.
Cheers,
Shao
Shao Chan
2009-03-04 22:28:21 UTC
Permalink
Hi Chris,

Thanks for that. I am still not completely sure of what you say though.

As far as I can tell, you are saying that our version of SQL Anywhere, known
as Base, is now known as Workgroup and that there are now 2 other variants,
Standard and Advanced. Is this correct?

Also, I still don't get why license keys might change. Either you have an
existing license key that works or you have a new license key that is for
11.0.1 only. In what was would a license key change?

Finally, as a result of the Base edition spawning into 3 separate
editions.....are we going to find that our 'Workgroup' edition suddenly
can't scale, is limited to X number of CPU cores or is restricted in any way
giving reason to upgrade to Standard or Actual?

Looking at the documentation from the link:
http://www.sybase.com/detail?id=1062382

"What new editions are being introduced in SQL Anywhere 11.0.1?
SQL Anywhere 11.0.1 marks the introduction of a new Educational Edition.
This is a free version of SQL Anywhere available to post-secondary students
and staff for instructional, research, and other academic purposes.
We have also replaced the Base Edition with new editions that include
different options, platforms and limitations. Now available in 11.0.1 are
the following:
SQL Anywhere Workgroup Edition (5-User, 10-User, 1-CPU packages)
SQL Anywhere Standard Edition (5-User, 1-CPU packages)
SQL Anywhere Advanced Edition (25-User, 1-CPU packages) "

This is a restriction right in the new editions?

Our license agreement was that we could use any number of CPUs to scale as
high as possible and we paid per seat licensing. Does the 1-CPU package
mean that SQLA 11.0.1 does not scale as well as 11.0.0?

Cheers,

Shao
Post by Chris Keating [Sybase iAnywhere]
http://www.sybase.com/products/databasemanagement/sqlanywhere/neweditions.
If you apply the Maintenance Release (MR) (it is applied to a SA11.0.0
install), you will get the SQL Anywhere Workgroup edition plus any
previous add-ons that are installed. See the FAQ "I currently have SQL
Anywhere 11.0.0. Which edition do I get if I apply the 11.0.1 maintenance
release?" for more info.
There is no need to do a fresh install. The MR (or what you are referring
to as the upgrade) will need to 11.0.0 software installed to apply. This
of course assumes that there has been no 'unexpected' changes to the
install i.e., no files renamed/deleted, directory structures are intact -
those would likely need to have a fresh install to get back into a clean
state.
- chris
Post by Shao Chan
Hi all,
"With the introduction of new editions in SQL Anywhere 11.0.1, some
registration
keys have changed between the 11.0.0 and 11.0.1 releases. Do not use 11.0.0
registration keys to install 11.0.1 software. For example, this may lead
to a
scenario where the Administration Tools and samples are not installed
properly. "
11 SQL Anywhere Base Entitlement Only for 11.0 Windows - 32/64bit
Do we need to get a new one generated?
Also, is there any advantage in a fresh install over an upgrade (I don't
mean databases). Should we ideally uninstall and reinstall.
Cheers,
Shao
Shao Chan
2009-03-04 23:10:57 UTC
Permalink
Hi Chris,

Just an update.

We have 2 licence codes: 1 for Base which is what we've always used and 1
for OEM.

My understanding in the past was that we should use the Base one. However,
it seems like, from the documentation, the OEM ones are the ones without any
restrictions other than having to authenticate the OEM license?

Cheers,

Shao
Post by Shao Chan
Hi Chris,
Thanks for that. I am still not completely sure of what you say though.
As far as I can tell, you are saying that our version of SQL Anywhere,
known as Base, is now known as Workgroup and that there are now 2 other
variants, Standard and Advanced. Is this correct?
Also, I still don't get why license keys might change. Either you have an
existing license key that works or you have a new license key that is for
11.0.1 only. In what was would a license key change?
Finally, as a result of the Base edition spawning into 3 separate
editions.....are we going to find that our 'Workgroup' edition suddenly
can't scale, is limited to X number of CPU cores or is restricted in any
way giving reason to upgrade to Standard or Actual?
http://www.sybase.com/detail?id=1062382
"What new editions are being introduced in SQL Anywhere 11.0.1?
SQL Anywhere 11.0.1 marks the introduction of a new Educational Edition.
This is a free version of SQL Anywhere available to post-secondary
students and staff for instructional, research, and other academic
purposes.
We have also replaced the Base Edition with new editions that include
different options, platforms and limitations. Now available in 11.0.1 are
SQL Anywhere Workgroup Edition (5-User, 10-User, 1-CPU packages)
SQL Anywhere Standard Edition (5-User, 1-CPU packages)
SQL Anywhere Advanced Edition (25-User, 1-CPU packages) "
This is a restriction right in the new editions?
Our license agreement was that we could use any number of CPUs to scale as
high as possible and we paid per seat licensing. Does the 1-CPU package
mean that SQLA 11.0.1 does not scale as well as 11.0.0?
Cheers,
Shao
Post by Chris Keating [Sybase iAnywhere]
http://www.sybase.com/products/databasemanagement/sqlanywhere/neweditions.
If you apply the Maintenance Release (MR) (it is applied to a SA11.0.0
install), you will get the SQL Anywhere Workgroup edition plus any
previous add-ons that are installed. See the FAQ "I currently have SQL
Anywhere 11.0.0. Which edition do I get if I apply the 11.0.1 maintenance
release?" for more info.
There is no need to do a fresh install. The MR (or what you are referring
to as the upgrade) will need to 11.0.0 software installed to apply. This
of course assumes that there has been no 'unexpected' changes to the
install i.e., no files renamed/deleted, directory structures are intact -
those would likely need to have a fresh install to get back into a clean
state.
- chris
Post by Shao Chan
Hi all,
"With the introduction of new editions in SQL Anywhere 11.0.1, some
registration
keys have changed between the 11.0.0 and 11.0.1 releases. Do not use 11.0.0
registration keys to install 11.0.1 software. For example, this may lead
to a
scenario where the Administration Tools and samples are not installed
properly. "
11 SQL Anywhere Base Entitlement Only for 11.0 Windows - 32/64bit
Do we need to get a new one generated?
Also, is there any advantage in a fresh install over an upgrade (I don't
mean databases). Should we ideally uninstall and reinstall.
Cheers,
Shao
Mike Paola
2009-03-06 18:27:06 UTC
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Hello again Shao. You're correct - as an OEM, you do have the ability to
use the "base" software with one of the registration keys provided in your
package. However, this is for development purposes only. When deploying,
OEMs will deploy the OEM version of the software (which the other
registration key is used for).

You're also correct in stating that the OEM software does not cap the number
of processors that can be used by SQL Anywhere Server - unlike the cap of 2
in the Workgroup, or 4 in the Standard Edition non-OEM versions.

Regards,
Mike
Post by Shao Chan
Hi Chris,
Just an update.
We have 2 licence codes: 1 for Base which is what we've always used and 1
for OEM.
My understanding in the past was that we should use the Base one.
However, it seems like, from the documentation, the OEM ones are the ones
without any restrictions other than having to authenticate the OEM
license?
Cheers,
Shao
Post by Shao Chan
Hi Chris,
Thanks for that. I am still not completely sure of what you say though.
As far as I can tell, you are saying that our version of SQL Anywhere,
known as Base, is now known as Workgroup and that there are now 2 other
variants, Standard and Advanced. Is this correct?
Also, I still don't get why license keys might change. Either you have
an existing license key that works or you have a new license key that is
for 11.0.1 only. In what was would a license key change?
Finally, as a result of the Base edition spawning into 3 separate
editions.....are we going to find that our 'Workgroup' edition suddenly
can't scale, is limited to X number of CPU cores or is restricted in any
way giving reason to upgrade to Standard or Actual?
http://www.sybase.com/detail?id=1062382
"What new editions are being introduced in SQL Anywhere 11.0.1?
SQL Anywhere 11.0.1 marks the introduction of a new Educational Edition.
This is a free version of SQL Anywhere available to post-secondary
students and staff for instructional, research, and other academic
purposes.
We have also replaced the Base Edition with new editions that include
different options, platforms and limitations. Now available in 11.0.1 are
SQL Anywhere Workgroup Edition (5-User, 10-User, 1-CPU packages)
SQL Anywhere Standard Edition (5-User, 1-CPU packages)
SQL Anywhere Advanced Edition (25-User, 1-CPU packages) "
This is a restriction right in the new editions?
Our license agreement was that we could use any number of CPUs to scale
as high as possible and we paid per seat licensing. Does the 1-CPU
package mean that SQLA 11.0.1 does not scale as well as 11.0.0?
Cheers,
Shao
Post by Chris Keating [Sybase iAnywhere]
http://www.sybase.com/products/databasemanagement/sqlanywhere/neweditions.
If you apply the Maintenance Release (MR) (it is applied to a SA11.0.0
install), you will get the SQL Anywhere Workgroup edition plus any
previous add-ons that are installed. See the FAQ "I currently have SQL
Anywhere 11.0.0. Which edition do I get if I apply the 11.0.1
maintenance release?" for more info.
There is no need to do a fresh install. The MR (or what you are
referring to as the upgrade) will need to 11.0.0 software installed to
apply. This of course assumes that there has been no 'unexpected'
changes to the install i.e., no files renamed/deleted, directory
structures are intact - those would likely need to have a fresh install
to get back into a clean state.
- chris
Post by Shao Chan
Hi all,
"With the introduction of new editions in SQL Anywhere 11.0.1, some
registration
keys have changed between the 11.0.0 and 11.0.1 releases. Do not use 11.0.0
registration keys to install 11.0.1 software. For example, this may
lead to a
scenario where the Administration Tools and samples are not installed
properly. "
11 SQL Anywhere Base Entitlement Only for 11.0 Windows - 32/64bit
Do we need to get a new one generated?
Also, is there any advantage in a fresh install over an upgrade (I
don't mean databases). Should we ideally uninstall and reinstall.
Cheers,
Shao
Mike Paola
2009-03-06 18:05:42 UTC
Permalink
Hello Shao - I will try to provide further clarification below. Let me know
if you have any other questions.
Regards,
Mike Paola
Post by Shao Chan
Hi Chris,
Thanks for that. I am still not completely sure of what you say though.
As far as I can tell, you are saying that our version of SQL Anywhere,
known as Base, is now known as Workgroup and that there are now 2 other
variants, Standard and Advanced. Is this correct?
Yes, instead of having one "Base Edition", we now have 3 of them -
Workgroup, Standard, and Advanced - with the new variants now bundling in
options that were purchased separately before. The packaging from the
former Base Edition (5-User, 10-User, 1-CPU) remains the same in Workgroup.
For Standard, we offer 5-User, 1-CPU packages and Advanced offers 25-User,
1-CPU packages.
Post by Shao Chan
Also, I still don't get why license keys might change. Either you have an
existing license key that works or you have a new license key that is for
11.0.1 only. In what was would a license key change?
You're right - in general license keys don't have to change during a point
release. However, with the introduction of new editions and options they
include, some of the registration keys that control what options are
installed had to change.
Post by Shao Chan
Finally, as a result of the Base edition spawning into 3 separate
editions.....are we going to find that our 'Workgroup' edition suddenly
can't scale, is limited to X number of CPU cores or is restricted in any
way giving reason to upgrade to Standard or Actual?
Just to clarify, the Workgroup Edition is limited to using 2 physical
processors not 2 cores. This means that it can use the full power of 2 dual
or quad-core processors. If you are using the non-OEM version of SQL
Anywhere Server V11.0.0 on any machine that uses more than 2 CPUs today, and
apply the maintenance patch that makes it a Workgroup Edition, you can get a
key from us to respect the previous CPU behaviour - eg. running on a box
with 4 CPUs, or 8 CPUs.
Post by Shao Chan
http://www.sybase.com/detail?id=1062382
"What new editions are being introduced in SQL Anywhere 11.0.1?
SQL Anywhere 11.0.1 marks the introduction of a new Educational Edition.
This is a free version of SQL Anywhere available to post-secondary
students and staff for instructional, research, and other academic
purposes.
We have also replaced the Base Edition with new editions that include
different options, platforms and limitations. Now available in 11.0.1 are
SQL Anywhere Workgroup Edition (5-User, 10-User, 1-CPU packages)
SQL Anywhere Standard Edition (5-User, 1-CPU packages)
SQL Anywhere Advanced Edition (25-User, 1-CPU packages) "
This is a restriction right in the new editions?
I'm not sure what restriction you're refering to. If you're talking about
CPU restrictions, then Workgroup can use up to 2 CPUs and Standard can use
up to 4 CPUs whereas Advanced does not restrict the number of CPUs that can
be used by the server. You're only bound by your licensing terms.
Post by Shao Chan
Our license agreement was that we could use any number of CPUs to scale as
high as possible and we paid per seat licensing. Does the 1-CPU package
mean that SQLA 11.0.1 does not scale as well as 11.0.0?
Sorry, I believe the terminology is confusing you here. "1-CPU package"
refers to the fact that you are licensing on a per-CPU basis vs. a per-seat
basis (eg 25-User). It does not mean it can only use 1-CPU. If you are
licensing on a per-CPU basis, you purchase the number of 1-CPU packages
required. You are restricted then to the number of CPUs you are licensed
for up to the maximum number of CPUs supported on that edition. For
example, you may choose to purchase 2 CPU licenses for a 4-CPU Standard
Edition and then purchase additional CPU licenses down the road.
Post by Shao Chan
Cheers,
Shao
Post by Chris Keating [Sybase iAnywhere]
http://www.sybase.com/products/databasemanagement/sqlanywhere/neweditions.
If you apply the Maintenance Release (MR) (it is applied to a SA11.0.0
install), you will get the SQL Anywhere Workgroup edition plus any
previous add-ons that are installed. See the FAQ "I currently have SQL
Anywhere 11.0.0. Which edition do I get if I apply the 11.0.1 maintenance
release?" for more info.
There is no need to do a fresh install. The MR (or what you are referring
to as the upgrade) will need to 11.0.0 software installed to apply. This
of course assumes that there has been no 'unexpected' changes to the
install i.e., no files renamed/deleted, directory structures are intact -
those would likely need to have a fresh install to get back into a clean
state.
- chris
Post by Shao Chan
Hi all,
"With the introduction of new editions in SQL Anywhere 11.0.1, some
registration
keys have changed between the 11.0.0 and 11.0.1 releases. Do not use 11.0.0
registration keys to install 11.0.1 software. For example, this may lead
to a
scenario where the Administration Tools and samples are not installed
properly. "
11 SQL Anywhere Base Entitlement Only for 11.0 Windows - 32/64bit
Do we need to get a new one generated?
Also, is there any advantage in a fresh install over an upgrade (I don't
mean databases). Should we ideally uninstall and reinstall.
Cheers,
Shao
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